
What is “Hearsay Medicine”?
Actually,
“Hearsay Medicine” is a Copyright of “The Side of The Stretcher,” aka Me :). I figure I should do that because blogging isn’t like it was 10 years ago. I notice the practice of “plagiarism” is not just common, it is rampant! You must copyright every one your ideas!
If you are familiar with the term “Hearsay” which someone with a legal background would be familiar with, then you may have an idea what “Hearsay Medicine” could be. If you don’t, read on and find out, because there are doctors who practice “Hearsay” medicine and one day you may be in a situation where you may just need to know this if you have a “politically incorrect” illness.
From the Nurse Point Of View!
As I have said in my previous blog posts, my blog posts are written from an RN point of view for the benefit of the patients because I was an active RN until I was no longer able to work because of M.E.
I also could not respond from a patient point of view because I would lose focus on the subject and I would end up sounding more like an angry patient than a nurse who is very very disappointed because of the lack of the standard of patient care in regards to this illness.
I decided to do this when I finally saw something where I thought, ok, enough is enough, the medical people with this illness must speak up because this is absolutely ridiculous, this is negligent, not to mention harmful to the patients as has been unbelievably and ridiculously harmful as well as many other things through the years, that if we don’t speak up, this situation will go on another 20-30 years.
Because of the “controversial and political” situation that our illness is in. and what I and most of us have observed and had to go through the last 20-30 years, its time to make things right or at least get us moving in the right direction.
I cant say I never saw a “political” affected illness because HIV/AIDS was in that same situation in the beginning, but their situation didn’t drag on for 30 year as this situation. I didn’t think I would see it again after how bad that epidemic actually was.
Also,
I too have encountered a “Hearsay Medicine” practitioner 9 years ago, who was very rude, who decided they were going to be rude when they saw the diagnosis that was written on my chart. When that happened, I was shocked, I was stunned, I could not believe a doctor actually would do that and I really started to wonder if other doctors were doing this. Thus, this post, “Hearsay Medicine” because I do not want to see other patients fall prey to this treatment which can be equated to nothing other than a classic case of bullying or abuse from an uninformed or uneducated medical practitioner who should know better.
Hearsay Medicine!
The term “Hearsay Medicine” was something that I thought of one day when I was thinking about when patients with M.E. or one of the other “controversial illnesses” go to the doctor for the first time to find out what is wrong, and they will hear one of a number of different classic statements that “Hearsay Medicine” practitioners make today.
“Hearsay Medicine” practitioners usually make those statements because they either choose to not listen to the patients, or they did not take the time to research the illness to find out what the illness really is and they believe many of the unreliable sources out there today and repeat what those unreliable sources say because they think those unreliable sources are correct.
Classic Statements
Those of us with M.E. or who were giving the diagnosis of “CFS” and those other “politically incorrect” illnesses already know what those statements are, but for the other people reading that don’t know, we will educate you to what is going on regarding “Hearsay Medicine” if you or your family member become a victim to one of these “Hearsay Medicine” practitioners.
If its a doctor reading this, even better because there are doctors who need to be educated if they may have made one or more of these statements. As a matter of fact, this blog is addressing those health practitioners, so read on and see why they need to be educated and why this may be important for you to know!
1. “Its all in your head honey”
2. “You are suffering from depression?”
3. “You just need to get some exercise.”
4. “Did you try sitting outside?”
5. “Maybe you need a new hair color.”
6. “No, I don’t need to read that piece of paper, I know what your problem is.”
7. “There is no such thing as that illness, that illness IS DEPRESSION.”
My Personal Encounter With A “Hearsay Medicine” Practitioner
This is a what a doctor actually said to me 9 years ago when I went to a local doctor because I was sick with bronchitis and I could not drive the one hour and 15 minutes to my doctor who usually treats me. When this person saw “ME/CFS” written on the chart, this person ignored the reason why I was there and decided to say these things instead.
“There is no such thing as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome”.
“Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is depression.”
“Who is your doctor?”
“Is your doctor an internist?”
“If your doctor is an internist, medicare is not going to pay me.”
“You should’ve went to my friend Dr. B. down the road at the urgent care center.”
“Who filled out your disability papers, how interesting that someone filled out disability papers.”
“You have fibromyalgia too?, I make my fibromyalgia patients exercise.”
Direct Questioning
The question I have for the doctor or anyone else that thinks that this is “all in the patients head” is, where did you learn that?
Who taught you that?
Did your medical school teach you that?
Where did you hear that information?
Are you referring to places such as the CDC toolkit, Wikipedia and other websites?
Do you say that because the group practice that employs you tells you to say that?
Are you afraid that your colleagues will harass you if investigate further?
Quite franky, what makes YOU think it is all in their head when it could just be all in YOUR head?
Possible Answers
-I went to Harvard Medical School.
-Yes, my employer tells me to say that otherwise they will fire me
-My favorite professor in medical school said that and he co-authored a number of textbooks.
-I read it on that site called Kevin MD
-I referred to the CDC toolkit for the information.
-I didn’t think to look anywhere else because the CDC is usually the place I look because the CDC is always where I look.
-I looked on Wikipedia
-My best friend I went to medical school with who is a psychiatrist told me.
-I looked at The Mayo Clinic website
-I took a CE (continuing education) course and that’s what the CE course taught.
-I read it in the newspaper.
-I heard it on TV.
OBJECTION HEARSAY!
As the lawyer may say in the courtroom if you actually gave that type of answer!
Why “Objection Hearsay?”
BECAUSE:
If YOU were in the courtroom “Hearsay evidence” is normally excluded from a trial because it is deemed UNTRUSTWORTHY.
BECAUSE:
YOU listen to whatever someone tells YOU.
AND,
YOU believe everything you read without double checking or investigating further,
THEN,
YOU start preaching the same thing!
THE TRUTH IS,
YOU are practicing “Hearsay Medicine” which is a dangerous practice my friend!
GUILTY AS CHARGED
YOU practice the DANGEROUS practice called “Hearsay Medicine” and YOU need to be CORRECTED and CURED from YOUR maladaptive illness thoughts!
Be thankful its just “Hearsay Medicine” that YOU need to be CURED from because tomorrow YOU can wake up and YOU can be that patient.
No one is immune, I can guarantee YOU that, not even YOU!
Why do you say that I am guilty???
-Because you said someone else said the answer.
-Because YOU “assume” your friend the psychiatrist knows what they are talking about and YOU didn’t double check for “CYA” purposes and to see if what YOU heard is actually true!
-Because YOU “assume” sites like Kevin MD are always correct. How do YOU know that sites like that are always correct? Did you double check?
-Because you listen to your employer and don’t double check for “CYA” purposes. Just because your employer says it, it doesn’t mean its correct and it doesn’t mean YOU will not get sued!
-Because YOU also “assume” the CDC toolkit is correct. How do YOU know the CDC toolkit is correct if you didn’t research the illness? What makes YOU think the CDC toolkit is actually correct when their scientists cant even follow proper lab protocol and they expose everyone in their lab to things like Anthrax?
Be glad I am telling YOU this instead of the malpractice lawyer or the State Board!
One must never “assume” when it comes to a patient. One must always double check so one doesn’t actually harm or kill the patient.
Do YOU think just because YOU went to a medical school with an overpriced name that charges an overpriced tuition makes YOU better than someone who goes to any of the other medical schools?
If your employer dictates what to say to the patients, maybe its time to find another job because obviously they do not care about the patients.
It YOU didn’t know this, it doesn’t matter what your employer says, YOU can still get sued!
CDC Toolkit, Kevin MD, Mayo Clinic and many other “supposed” sources of information about this illness and other illnesses such as Lyme, Gulf War Illness and other “politically incorrect illnesses” are not correct. Surprise Surprise!’
They don’t even have the right name for the illness on their websites! What makes YOU think their information will be any better?!?!?!?!
Im sorry I have to tell YOU this, but your psychiatrist friend is not correct either. Im not sorry I have to tell you that your friend is not correct because this illness is not a psychiatric illness. It looks like your friend is suffering from “Hearsay Medicine” like YOU are.
There also happens to be an epidemic called “psychobabble ” that many health practitioners actually believe.
If YOU Get Sued for Malpractice ?
Harvard Medical school will not get YOU off the hook?
Your employer will not get YOU off the hook!
CDC will not get YOU off the hook!
Kevin MD will not get YOU off the hook!
Mayo Clinic will not get YOU off the hook!
Whoever else YOU referred to will not get YOU off the hook!
Your friend the psychiatrist can not get YOU off the hook!
As a matter of fact, everyone who YOU thought who was “your friend” will not be the friend YOU thought they were! They all disappear when the medical boards and the malpractice lawyers come-a-calling!
YOU ARE A BULLY!
Quite frankly,
Shame on YOU!
How dare YOU treat these patients this way!
YOU forgot to “Do No Harm.”
Who do YOU think you are?
Do YOU think your something special because YOU are Jane or Joe doctor who went to Harvard Medical School which is no better than any of the other medical schools that YOU were penny wise and dollar foolish for paying for an over-priced tuition for paying for an overpriced name?
Did YOU think that YOU did not harm the patient when YOU told them their illness was all in their head or one of those other classic statements?
Does it EMPOWER YOU TO BULLY THOSE PATIENTS?
What gives YOU the right to verbally abuse a patient or look at them like they have 10 heads on their shoulders just because they have one of these illnesses?
When the patient told YOU that they had either M.E. or even Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, or the other controversial political illnesses such as Lyme, or Gulf War illness, did YOU put down that stethoscope because YOU decided that YOU didn’t need do a physical exam because YOU thought those patients were a head-case?
The patient employs YOU, do YOU realize that?
YOU get paid because of the patients, whether they pay YOU cash or if their insurance pays YOU. Did YOU not realize either? Or did YOU forget because YOU drive an expensive car now?
Did YOU not learn, if YOU cant identify what is wrong with the patient, that YOU either should say that YOU need to refer to them to someone else, that its out of YOUR area of expertise,
or,
Oh MY, do YOU think YOU could actually do this!
Did YOU not learn its ok to say “I don’t know what YOU have.”
Or are YOU to proud to say that?
Pride
Remember, Pride always comes before the fall!
Because YOU WILL FALL if the patient becomes disabled, homebound, bedbound or even dies.
Yes, patients do die from this illness.
Don’t believe everything YOU read in the newspaper or what you hear from someone else and then start preaching it yourself when you don’t even really know if what YOU are saying is correct!
Truth or Consequences
If one wants to be in the people helping profession, then one needs to OPEN THEIR EYES and see the propaganda!
There is such a thing called TRUTH!
TRUTH will never fail YOU!
When it comes to TRUTH, YOU will always be able to look in the mirror because TRUTH will keep you from abusing sick patient!
TRUTH will even keep YOU from harming or killing patients because YOU referred to the wrong recommendations!
TRUTH will also keep you from getting sued and keep your Medical license!
Its always the TRUTH that YOU know will be the TRUTH that will set YOU free!
Truth Hurts
Yes, the TRUTH DOES HURT NOW DOESNT IT!
Just think how those patients HURT when YOU treated them in the disrespectful and abusive way that YOU treated them!
Speaking this TRUTH that HURTS is necessary these days because no doctor or no other health practitioner has no right to treat any patient the way these patients have and are being treated!
If someone doesn’t speak this TRUTH, then the patients will continue to be disrespected, hurt, and abused by “Hearsay Medicine” practitioners.
If YOU are guilty of this, and what YOU read today touched you and made YOU think that YOU just have been rude to patients with the diagnosis or “politically incorrect diagnosis” that I mentioned above and other diagnosis for that matter, then YOU need to go to pull those patients charts and call those patients, and give them the long over-due apology they deserve!
“The Other Side Of The Stretcher” (c) 2015
This blog is not for medical advice.
For medical advice, you must speak with your physician!
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“GET” And The House Of Commons Gym Part 4
Graded Exercise Therapy and The House Of Commons Gym
Part 4
In Memory Of M.E. Patient
Brynmor John
18 April 1934 – 13 December 1988
Brynmor John Circa 1959
Compliments of Flying Officer Pam Gerrity
From The Nurse Point of View!
I will point out again like I said in my previous blog posts, i’m coming from an R.N. point of view for the benefit of the patients because I was an active R.N. until I was no longer able to work because of M.E.
I actually couldn’t respond from a patient point of view because I would lose focus on the subject, and I would end up sounding more like an angry patient than a nurse who is very disappointed because of the lack of the standard of patient care in regards to this illness.
Review Of The Facts!
According to Malcolm Hooper’s “Magical Medicine: How To Make A Disease Disappear:”
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Let’s Assess!
Brynmor John could no longer walk on that slight gradient from his house to the main road, as he stated
Prior to becoming ill Brynmor John was able walk up that gradient, otherwise he wouldn’t of made that statement.
Brynmor John was to weak to put his clothes on and he could no longer tolerate exertion.
Brynmor John also suffered the abnormal recovery time to the slightest exertion. as “it took days to regain his strength.”
Prior to becoming ill, Brynmor John did not have a problem dressing before he became ill nor did the slightest exertion exhaust him, otherwise that would not have been noted as well.
Remember, Brynmor John was only 54 years old. A healthy 54 year old man or woman would not have a problem walking up a slight gradient, would not have a problem dressing, nor have a problem tolerating exertion.
“Abnormal Recovery Time” is expected as we know in patients with M.E. after exertion.
Abnormal Recovery Time
Abnormal recovery time was already a known symptom of M.E. or Myalgic Encephalomyelitis in 1988.
The 1986 Ramsay Definition for Myalgic Encephalomyelitis Compliments of NAME-US.org Stated:
Brynmor John was suffering other symptoms in addition to the abnormal recovery time!
“Not A ‘Seasoned Veteran'”
Malcolm Hooper’s
“Magical Medicine: How To Make A Disease Disappear stated that Brynmor John
which meant he was a newer patient.
Brynmor John was not a “seasoned veteran” as far as being an M.E. patient, Brynmor John was still trying to learn about the illness.
Since Brynmor John was not a “seasoned veteran” of M.E., Brynmor John would not of known if the additional symptoms he was suffering were additional complications.
A Closer Look:
I did a search and I found where Brynmor John lived so we could take a look at the property where he lived and the gradient that he stated he could no longer walk up on the way to the Main Rd.
Brynmor John’s actual home address was: Yale Haven, Station Rd, Church Station, Pontypridd, Rhonnda Cynon Taff, CF38 1AF, U.K. compliments of Welsh Biography Online and Google Maps
Yale Haven is the name of Brynmor John’s house. Many houses in England have names instead of being noted as a number in a street address.
Google Map of the area:
The map shows “Yale Haven” which was Brynmor John’s house.
Just north of Yale Haven is Main Rd. Station Rd is on the left of Yale Haven.
Google Maps Street View:
This is the Station Rd view of Brynmor John’s property which is in back of the trees on the right.
Google Maps Street View of “Yale Haven”:
Yale Haven, which was Brynmor John’s house is on the right. The Main Rd is on the left.
The gradient Brynmor John was talking about is on the right side of the house where the driveway is that leads to the street to the Main Rd.
As you can see, that is a not a long walk.
A person with Mild or Moderate ME could walk that short walk and suffer their post activity exacerbation of symptoms after the fact.
Brynmor John’s symptoms he was experiencing in addition to the abnormal recovery time was different, Brynmor John stated:
Brynmor John could no longer walk up that slight gradient at all!
Brynmor John was 54 years old. If Brynmor John was a healthy person, he should not have had a problem walking on that gradient. The gradient is not a steep gradient.
Up until Brynmor John became an M.E. patient he was able walk up that actual gradient to the main road, if he could not walk up that gradient going to the Main Road, Brynmor John would not have made the statement:
Brynmor John should not have had a problem continuing to walk on the property where he lived if the exercise prescription was the proper recommendation.
Was Something Missed?
Brynmor John was advised by his doctor to “Exercise his way back to fitness” as stated in “Magical Medicine: How To Make A Disease Disappear.”
Brynmor John had listened to his doctors advice and attempted to “exercise his way back to fitness” as his doctor advised.
Instead of becoming “Fit,” Brynmor John not only suffered the increase in his abnormal recovery time, he became so weak that he could not dress, he could not tolerate exertion, and he could not walk up the gradient to the Main Road from his house.
We also see no further documentation as far as Brynmor John’s doctor investigating further as to why Brynmor John’s condition was not improving and why Brynmor John could not walk up that gradient.
Brynmor John was still exercising at the House of Commons Gym because he was exercising right before he died, December 15th, 1988.
Brynmor John was also still working as of December 5th which was the day of his last noted contribution to UK Parliament regarding “Environmental Problems.”
Brynmor John was still both working and exercising.
Brynmor John did not improve.
Not only did Brynmor John not improve, Brynmor John suffered the worse complication that one could suffer, Brynmor John went into Cardiac Arrest immediately after he was exercising while exiting the House of Commons Gym.
Why did Brynmor John’s doctor not listen?
Malcolm Hooper’s Magical Medicine: How To Make An Illness Disappear” stated that Brynmor John:
The “profusion of psychiatric comment“that Brynmor John was talking about was the intrusion of the “psychiatric lobby” which was led by Professor Simon Wessely and his colleagues known as the “Wessely School.”
The school of thought of the “profusion of psychiatric comment” or “Wessely School” believes that M.E. is a myth, a psychiatric disorder, or what Professor Wessely believes to be “functional somatic syndrome” or behavioral disorder where the patient has medically unexplained fatigue caused by inappropriate illness beliefs.
Thus, Brynmor John’s doctor did not “hear” Brynmor John’s complaint of symptoms because Brynmor John’s doctor was of the school of the “profusion of psychiatric comment“, better known as the belief of the Wessely School definition of “CFS/ME” which is what the Wessely School classify M.E. as.
The “profusion of psychiatric comment” or “Wessely School” belief for the treatment of “CFS/ME” is psychiatric and their treatment for “CFS/ME” is what is called “CBT” or Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and
“GET” or Graded Exercise Therapy.
The “Wessely School” belief for the treatment of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is to “cure” the “dysfunctional beliefs” of patients who only “think” they have a non-existent illness called “ME”,
The “Wessely School” belief for the treatment of “GET” or Graded Exercise Therapy was to reverse the change that resulted in deconditioning in patients who avoided activity because the patients had a false belief of illness.
A Few More Clues!
All of the M.E. patients who are reading this, what do some of our lab results show?
If you know the different items in the lab results, which of those items can affect the heart?
What can those items do to the heart?
Can you think of another M.E. patient who died of Sudden Cardiac death because that patient wasn’t examined further?
If you know who that M.E. patient is who I am referring to, what was wrong with that M.E. patients heart?
If you can identify what is being described and asked in the questions above:
-Should Brynmor John’s doctor continued to have allowed Brynmor John to keep exercising “his way back to fitness?”
-Should Brynmor John’s doctor have possibly known what the problem was according to Brynmor John’s symptoms and discontinued Brynmor John’s exercise prescription to investigate further to confirm?
What did Brynmor John’s doctor miss that caused Brynmor John to suffer sudden cardiac death after he exercised in the House of Commons Gym?
??????????
Fellow Patients And Others:
If you think you know the answer, please leave it in the comments.
If we the patients are to be effective advocates for this illness, the complications must be pointed out, not just the symptoms that make this illness unique in comparison to other illnesses.
The discussion should not be “Do M.E. or “CFS” patients die”, the discussion should be, what are the specific complications that M.E. or “CFS” patients die from and why do those complications occur!
I included “CFS” because patients are diagnosed “CFS” or “ME/CFS” here in the United States.
There is no need to dance around the truth about this and other complications!
M.E. patients have serious and potentially lethal complications and they must be pointed out!
As the complications are discussed, this information will circulate via the internet and social media that we didn’t have 25 years ago where we could not do that.
Because we as patients could not do that 25 years ago, this illness has gone from the infectious disease department to the psychological propaganda department.
Brynmor John died in 1988 the other patient I pointed about above died 16 years later because of the same thing which was missed causing Sudden Cardiac Death that I did not state yet.
Do you think Brynmor John and the patient who died 16 years later have been the only two patients who died of Sudden Cardiac Death because something major was missed because of something that could’ve been very easy to diagnose?
Yes, I say “EASY TO DIAGNOSE,” and I shake my head because I was an active R.N. and I knew this and I cant believe that there are many physicians today who do NOT know this!
To Be Continued……..
“The Other Side Of The Stretcher” (c) 2014
This blog is not for medical advice.
For medical advice, you must speak with your physician!
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